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Re: Living with Loneliness

@PeppyPatti

 

No, I moved out about 10 years ago, as sad as that is.  I always wanted to move out but I had no where to go and not enough money to move somewhere by myself.  The negative opinion of myself was pretty high back then.  I didn't have any close friends and getting a proper job was hard because the thought of applying and having to be 'judged' at an interview was very difficult to get past.  I found a job at a local community centre because they really needed someone with IT skills.  I started as a volunteer (as part of a unemployment govt program) but they loved having someone there who could fix their computer and network problems as well as improved their current systems and create new ones.  So they offered to pay me to I would stay. It wasn't a lot of hours but I liked it there and felt valued, which was rare for me, so I stayed for 18 years.  Not the best career or financial decision, but it felt like the best I could hope for.  It also wasn't the best 'mental' decision because it just fed into my low self esteem because I avoided people even more because they would inevitably ask about 'who do you live with' forcing me to lie or humiliate myself... and I never could bring myself to lie.

 

Every time my adoptive mother introduced me to some one, she would say "This is my son M..., he's adopted!"  I always hated that and she got really cranky if I said anything about it... like I was being annoying!  So I put up with it.  Some people would then ask "Has ever tried to find his birth mother?"  Her tone would then change and she would say in a very passive aggressive manner "He can do whatever he wants, but if he finds her, that b#$ch will never be welcome in my house!"  So I grew up afraid to find my bio-mother because of the fear of being rejected again as well as the thought that is was going to cause drama and conflict if I did.  To this day, I still haven't told her about my birth family and never plan to.  I haven't even told my brother (the one my adoptive parents adopted after me) because of fear he will tell my mother.  So i keep it to myself.

 

Both my adoptive parent were heavy smokers.  And I mean HEAVY!  You could walk past their bedroom a 3am and you would see 2 little red glows.  I didn't mean they were awake by the way.  The carpet on each side of the bed, near the head end was pretty much all black from burns of lit cigarettes from when they fell asleep.  I always complained about the smoking around me as I hated the smell as well as the taste of the smoke.  They would just laugh as I coughed and tried to wave the smoke away... until it got tedious over the years then they would get really annoyed and tell me to stop being stupid, or angrily move their cigarette to the opposite hand.  My mother did anyway... my father just ignored me.  As soon as I was old enough to eat meals in my room, I did.  And I just stayed in my room while they watched TV, or I went outside just to get away from the smoke.  It's probably little wonder the desire to find my biological mother was so strong... but so was the fear.

 

So i know there's a chance that letter just got lost, but knowing my adoptive mother as well as I do, i'm sure she would have never given it to me anyway.  I see no point in asking because she would just deny all knowledge and I can't prove she ever got it, but also because even if I persisted and found out she did hide it from me, I would get so angry that at the very least I would tell her I never want to see or hear from her ever again!  And that would take a lot of self control.  So I keep it all to myself.

 

I'm happy you got something out of my story.  It certainly is quite an experience and I think explains more about me and the way I am than anything else I could say.  I know what you mean about the 50s reset button.  Mine was more or less forced on me by my health issues but I had already found my biological family a year before so I think i was on the way to making some big changes to move past my previous self who just buried everything emotional and never dealt with anything and just hid from the world I guess.  It's nice to be finally peeking my head out!  It's great that you feel your own "rebirth" at a similar time in life.  It doesn't remove everything from the past but it does lighten the load a lot.

Re: Living with Loneliness

@Lila3 

Thanks for your thoughts on my story, it's definitely not a normal route people take though their lives.

 

I think this is why I see family, close family, being so important in life.  So whether is someone adopted like me that is having issues not being connected to their adoptive families or people having similar disconnects with their own birth families, it breaks my heart because I know just how massive a part of life we're separated from.  It messes with you in so many ways!

Re: Living with Loneliness

Jeepers. May I comment to Your answers to your loneliness thread 

Then to that  incredible answer @Lila3  gave you. 

 

I'm not stepping away from your story --- but when I reread your answer questions to loneliness thread I identified some as an abuser of being married to someone with mental ill health and as someone lonely. 

I used to walk around the playground pretending I had a friend too. I got that. I didn't get lunches when I was a little girl and one Friday my friend's mother bought me a lunch. I will never forget that. 

 

 

I was married to someone with pretty bad case of schizophrenia. It was for 10 wonderful years. I made so many mistakes. 

Today my new partner and I are his next of kin and his unregistered carers. We - I- have a certain amount of responsibility for him as he only has his mother who is not trustworthy. 

 

For years - I didn't even realise how stressed out I was. Today, I'm getting out of the shock how stressed I

Was. But I also used to introduce him as ' hi my name is A ....... And this is my husband ...... s..... And he has schizophrenia. 

 

I remember that time with shame but I didn't not so it without care which your adoptive parents did. Iv said how sorry I am and my ex husband has acknowledged it. 

 

I'll get back to you @MJG017 

@Lila3 @rav3n 

Re: Living with Loneliness

@PeppyPattiI think I would have been okay with my mother telling people I was adopted if she stopped when I said I didn't like it.  I felt broken and rejected as an adoptee and always wanted to hide it.  So her telling people was like "Oh great more people know the truth about me now!" plus it felt so dismissive of my feelings, but I was sort of used to that by the time I spoke up.

 

When you said you are getting out of the shock of how stressed you were, it made me think that maybe i'm just beginning to realise just how traumatising a lot of stuff growing up probably was.  I always knew it adversely affected me, especially with self esteem and fear of rejection but I always just thought of it as my weakness to handle it.

 

I also think it's amazing you and your new partner care for your ex. I feel like it says so much about the both of you.  I've heard a lot of people say they still look after someone because that person doesn't have anyone else.  It's still a choice and good people make good choices.  Great people don't see it as a choice.

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@MJG017 the opening is so distinctive, that you immediately know what song it is.

Very, very clever.

G

Re: Living with Loneliness

How are you @MJG017 

 

Waiting for visits from my co - whatever NDIS lady to visit for interview so can NOT 

 

yell at her 

 

But kindly explain NDIS are using my past experiences to highlight head injury issues but not. 

 

 

Re: Living with Loneliness

Hi @PeppyPatti, I'm doing pretty well today, after a bit of a tough weekend.  I had my support group in the morning and then had to rush straight from there to my 2nd PASS (post adoption support services) appointment.

 

That went really well and I think i got a lot out of my system... a lot of tears mainly.  It was very emotional but the fact I felt safe enough talking to her to just lose control like that shows a lot of progress I think.  I told here that for most of my life I could control emotions when in front of other people like a switch.  I could so effortlessly just turn it on and off.  Well, I never turned it on, but could turn it off so easily that it scared me how easy it was.  So she asked if I preferred how I was and I said no.  So we both agreed it has shown some good progress.

 

Over the past 11 years since I've known my partner, she has worked for 4 places.  Novita, ECH, Guide Dogs, and now MS Society.  All those jobs involved working with people with disabilities, their support workers, and the NDIS.  I think a lot of people just want to yell at quite a few of the people involved.  It's really sad the problems that a lot of people, who deserve far, far better have trying to navigate this system!

I really do wish you all the best of luck with it all.  If you need any advice (anonymously of course), let me know and I can ask my partner is she has any thoughts and tips/tricks to help with any issues.

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Wow @MJG017 

Thankyou. 

It's amazing that right in the middle of you dealing with the hardest thing ever you are caring about me.

Wow. Thankyou. 

 

This NDIS journey I can see ---- in my two blue eyes & overalls -- 

 

It would be very difficult for so many people. Advocates are needed !! Where are they ?

 

Fortunately after all these years I'm in the best place I could be. 

But it took me 2 years to accept support workers. THEN I just got my best occupational therapist to write a  functional report.  But you feel you've been punched in the gut because it feels like every little tiny little problem you have is scrutinized. 

Fortunately my support coordinator I have is brilliant. 

 

However - 

 

Can you tell me what this means ??

 

2nd PASS (post adoption support services) appointment."

 

 

Did you feel like this. A punch in the gut -- With  going through what your going through ? 

 

I felt like just quitting NDIS and going to bed for the rest of my life. 

What's it all worth ? 

 

Then in top of this there are some dangers lurking around my youngest son who has just gotten in contact with me. 

 

He is 30 and he has had some issues that he is confused about and I'm feeling quite unsure what to do.  .. .......

 

Normal. 

 

Best thing for us two to do is to draw our support people close around us. 

 

Not walk away from NDIS.

I think it's not the most confidence running mind place once you've had a functional report made up. 

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